Cloudy haze in paint

[GoV6gO]

I have a 93 camaro and the body is 98% flawless, and the paint is perfect every where but the doors...Theres a like cloudy haze to them at the top and bottom...I've buffed the car and got rid of about 60% of the cloudiness...But I've never buffed a car before and don't want to mess it up...I used a non-orbital buffer with turtle wax polishing compound...Also the buffing pad was the one that came with the buffer, not sure what kind it is...Now my question is did I use the wrong buffing compound/pad, or did I not buff enof...Like I said never buffed a car before and I know if you stay/press to hard in one spot you can ruin your paint...

[nzballer05]

Sounds like you dont have a good quality buffer.. YOu need somthing like the Porter cable in combination with Swirl cutter from tropi-care ---->

[00firebird]

sounds like oxidation.. you need a very agressive pad and polish to get rid of it.. i'd recommend the pc (can't hurt your car) and an agressive pad, along with a good polish setup like menzerna IP & FP or poorboys SSR 3, 2.5 and 1

[GoV6gO]

Originally Posted by 00firebird

sounds like oxidation.. you need a very agressive pad and polish to get rid of it.. i'd recommend the pc (can't hurt your car) and an agressive pad, along with a good polish setup like menzerna IP & FP or poorboys SSR 3, 2.5 and 1

Thanks...the buffer I bought was one from auto-zone, I'll try and get some pics to maybe help out a little in your suggestions...But with the snow its hard to keep it clean long enof to take pics...

[nzballer05]

I can already tell you if you got it from autozone it doesnt have enough pep to do what you want it to do.. The buffer you have is probably good enough to only put on wax.. You need somthing with more power+agressive pad+a good swirlcutter/polish to get rid of it

Hopefully steve will chime in to give you some better suggestions

[00firebird]

yeah.. try to get your money back for that if you can. although they usually don't cost that much, they don't do too much either. my friend has one and hes always calling me to bring over my porter cable. if you wanna do it right.. plan on spending around 200 bucks. but put it this way, its way less than youll ever pay a body shop to do the same work, and you'll have it forever. i'll be using mine on every car i ever buy in the future.

heres the best writeup on learning/using the PC:
http://autopia.org/forum/autopia-pro...-polisher.html

[Steve P]

Originally Posted by GoV6gO

I have a 93 camaro and the body is 98% flawless, and the paint is perfect every where but the doors...Theres a like cloudy haze to them at the top and bottom...I've buffed the car and got rid of about 60% of the cloudiness...But I've never buffed a car before and don't want to mess it up...I used a non-orbital buffer with turtle wax polishing compound...Also the buffing pad was the one that came with the buffer, not sure what kind it is...Now my question is did I use the wrong buffing compound/pad, or did I not buff enof...Like I said never buffed a car before and I know if you stay/press to hard in one spot you can ruin your paint...

If the buffer you're talking about is a single speed 2 handled variety available through local parts stores, it will not be able to correct the blemishes your trying to remove.

It's best to start with the least aggressive combination and increase only as needed to get the desired results. With a machine like the Porter Cable, you have variable speed capability to accomplish everything from applying liquid or paste wax carnauba waxes for protection to removing scratches with a yellow pad and rubbing compound. Other colored foam buffing pads provide clarity and refinement to the surface. It is a process which you establish, learn, and maintain in an ongoing basis. Even with the most aggessive combinations, you can not burn with the PC on the surface.

The TW compound may have inflicted some micro-marring on the surface resulting in the haze as described.

Feel free to contact me with any questions.

[GoV6gO]

Originally Posted by Steve@Tropi-Care

If the buffer you're talking about is a single speed 2 handled variety available through local parts stores, it will not be able to correct the blemishes your trying to remove.

It's best to start with the least aggressive combination and increase only as needed to get the desired results. With a machine like the Porter Cable, you have variable speed capability to accomplish everything from applying liquid or paste wax carnauba waxes for protection to removing scratches with a yellow pad and rubbing compound. Other colored foam buffing pads provide clarity and refinement to the surface. It is a process which you establish, learn, and maintain in an ongoing basis. Even with the most aggessive combinations, you can not burn with the PC on the surface.

The TW compound may have inflicted some micro-marring on the surface resulting in the haze as described.

Feel free to contact me with any questions.

The buffer I bought has a controllable speed,(all in how much you pull the trigger...) just not orbital, the hazing was worse before I started but like I said, I'm new to buffing...Also if you said the portal cable can't hurt the paint I think I'll go ahead and get it just to be safe...But as far as pads and compounds to use I'll contact you to get some more detailed info...Again thanks a lot everyone for the help...