RWD Grand Prix

[eaton_rice]

Hey Guys, by popular request here is a thread about my RWD Grand prix:

--Now on to the Good stuff--
How about some pics
The day the car arrived:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_1_full.jpg

Car in the Garage:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_17_full.jpg

Finished motor:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_110_full.jpg
Nice:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_111_full.jpg
What the GP should have looked like from the back:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_58_full.jpg
Axle In
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_69_full.jpg
Axle In
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_75_full.jpg
Axle In
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_70_full.jpg
Subframe connectors -connect to rear lower control arm mounting points under the car
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_95_full.jpg
Interior Details (behind drivers side rear seat)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_82_full.jpg

Lookin Sweet
[http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_78_full.jpg
DIY Coilovers:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_91_full.jpg

First time with the rims on:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_93_full.jpg
Prep for the motor:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_97_full.jpg
I was excited to put the motor in:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_113_full.jpg
Motor in place:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_115_full.jpg
Full page with lots more pics at:
www.cardomain.com/id/eaton_rice (http://www.cardomain.com/id/eaton_rice)
click on the red GT

It has taken me a year to get to this point with a lot of hard work, endless
research and reading, This may be far from being a pro job but I don’t think its too shabby considering 4 years ago when I bought my first grand prix I could not even change the brakes.
I welcome and would like comments/help/constructive criticism etc so let me know!!!

For those that are interested
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Parts Lists and Prices
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Ford Axle Housing: $200
Girdle: $150
Axles: 240
Chassis: $2000
Motor: $750
Heads: $1000 (included ISII Cam FOR SALE)
Gears+Install kit: $250
PCM/Alternator+misc: 120
AFC 2.0: $100
LS1m: 200
North Star TB: 100
Towe from Ohio: $200
Control Arms: $300
Rear End Ford bolts: $75
Track Loc Rebuild Kit: $50
4l60E rebuld book: $17
Steel: $100
Rear Brakes: $160
Bushings+C clips: $20
Intercooler+Camaro UIM and LIM: $400
Wheels: $400
Spings: $22
Cobra Pinion cross pin (diff): $60
More steel: $200
Shocks: $60
Pump/Fuel Cell/Lines: $700
Tires: $400
Misc Parts: $272
Wheel Spacers: $220
Coil over parts: $175
Motor Parts/Timing chain/Bolts/gaskets: $400
Tubing: $50
Pistons: $900
HG, Valve seals, valves etc: $375
HP Tuners: $500
Motor and Head Work: $1100 (Had to rebuild the ISII heads with Low miles [:@])
Lots of mony on misc tools/blades/oils/etc etc
Total to date (not done yet)
$12996.73
Updates coming, I am hoping to have this monster running by summers end.

[Tpunk]

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_113_full.jpg




THIS IS REAR WHEEL DRIVAH :rofl:


Awsome work, man. I'm really impressed. You must be a pretty decent welder from what I see.

[hawgs]

Great fabrication skills! Very cool project. Good luck to you. :D

[chadder]

damn, that's gonna be a pretty badass car.

[lo_jack]

That is fantastic.



So, my question is, having done this once, can you replicate it?

Here is my idea:

RWD 98ish Eldo Touring Coupe - manual trans and 315s.

[WarShrike]

Eaton_Rice, awesome job! You took the Pontiac Grand Prix and gave it some actual American flavor to it! FWD is frustrating to me.

[Razor789]

Looking good man keep up the good work.

[Grimm]

I'm curious, what did you get that axle out of?

[eaton_rice]

Thanks for all the positive comments and encouragement guys!


You must be a pretty decent welder from what I see. Thanks man, I have been welding for one year and have not laid down one more bead than what you see on my car, beginners luck I guess


So, my question is, having done this once, can you replicate it?

Here is my idea:

RWD 98ish Eldo Touring Coupe - manual trans and 315s.
I could do it all day long on w-bodies I duno about a Eldo, that could be a sweet ride rwd


I'm curious, what did you get that axle out of
Axle: Not sure on the year but it is out of a mustang it is exactly the same as a 8.8 out of a sn95 ( I think but any ford 8.8 will work but they widened them three inches in....98.)

Differential: Same one out of a cobra/explorer, brings the spline count up to 31

Axle's: Moser

Brakes: Calipers/Brackets off of any sn95 gt stang, cobras will work also.

Gears: Your choice, people like Ford racing gear sets.

Girdle: Again Ford racing but there are about 10000 manufacturers.

The heavy cobra guys with solid swaps run setups like these (IRS to live axle swap) into the tens with slicks and they hold. There are people running the same axle in camaros and still retainig the torque arm/panhard bar.

Small update:

What I did monday / today:

The more I look at things the better a custom tubular k member might be in order.

Motor mounts:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_116_full.jpg


Mounts in:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_117_full.jpg

I forgot how time consuming fab work is

[Amagine]

yea looks like your doing what I'm thinking about doing only different.
I'm thinking of redoing the entire front end of a j-body to accept a 3900 or a stroked and boosted 3800. still fwd (only cus I haven't found an acceptable awd tranny)

[Dr. Channard]

awesome man

[Merlin]

what made you stick with the 3800 block? have you thought about using an aussie upper intake as well?

[lo_jack]

That is actually quite brilliant to go with ford rear driveline parts - there has to be a ton of it lying around or aftermarket, and it is not something that people would think about, but that has to have helped your cost.

I noticed there is sort of a tunnel already in the body pan - convenient. How is your pinion angle looking?

[eaton_rice]

what made you stick with the 3800 block? have you thought about using an aussie upper intake as well?

I have always been a fan of turbo 6cyl cars, supras, gn's, cyclones etc.. and I already had a disassembled l67 so I went for it. As for the aussie intake, I like it but I already have a polished camaro intake and a guy with a rwd gtx gp runs 9's with one so I figured it would work ok for me.


I noticed there is sort of a tunnel already in the body pan - convenient. How is your pinion angle looking?

When I started the project I was hoping it would work out, but as with everything else on this project it's gona have to be custom. The D.S will need another 3-5" of head room above the tunnel roof :dammit: so chop chop.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_101_full.jpg

^^^^^^^^^Thats not even the half of it, I have to re-build all the crossmembers and cut out ALL of the tunnel

The rear lower control arms have adjustable spring seats so I can drag the thing if I want and when it is nice and low the pinion will be almost planar with the slip yoke of the trans. Also I have not established an angle on the motor/trans yet, actually what angle does the camaro motor sit at????? that’s something that I would like to know. But my upper control arms are double adjustable so I can choose any pinion angle I like.

[PeeFo]

Nice project, I admire the fabrication.

[Epro]

The amount of work involved with this is amazing :)

[Horsepower844182]

You win at life.

[Amagine]

any news?

[eaton_rice]

Moving a little slow because of the holiday and graduation parties. I had to figure out what to do about mounting the motor, I was planning on using the existing sub frame however the thing is ridiculously heavy and there would just be absolutely no way to mount a rack. I wanted to do a DIY tubular k member... , but I wasn't feeling that crazy :screwy: so I got a camaro k member, had to do an ebay special because no yards within a $40 worth-o-gas radius had any. I am installing the member in such a way that it preserves it's original mounting points so I will be able to install an aftermarket tubular k some time down the road.

Pics:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_118_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_119_full.jpg




It dosnt look centered because the fwd frame rails are far from paralel because they have to fit the giant 4t65e trans. Please excuse my sloppy looking centering devices (string) however I assure you the thing is within a 32nd of an inch of where it needs to be, took 3.5hrs last night measuring, checking, re-measuring etc.:dammit: The best part is after removing the 10lbs of steel bracketry for the sub frame mounting points I now have a place to run an exhaust!!!!

[Tpunk]

Lookin good. When in doubt sting will work :D Good to see that things are moving along for you.

[lo_jack]

Looking good. Snag an LS1 steering rack (and coupler) if you intend on using an fbody rig.

[hawgs]

Looking good. Snag an LS1 steering rack (and coupler) if you intend on using an fbody rig.Yup. Good point.

The LS1 rack has a better ratio.

[Cadillac]

I get a boner everytime I see this thread...:)

[Forced_Firebird]

What generation f-body is the k member?

A manual close ratio S-10 works in a third generation, don't know about fourth.

[eaton_rice]

the k member is a 95-02. (4th gen right?) Also the LS1 rack has a better ratio than the 6 banger camaro, is that correct?

[hawgs]

the k member is a 95-02. (4th gen right?) Also the LS1 rack has a better ratio than the 6 banger camaro, is that correct?Correct. 14:1 instead of a 16.4:1 ratio (I believe those numbers are close). Make sure you get the cooresponding steering linkage with it.

[99fbodypimp]

You win at life.

agreed

[eaton_rice]

Thanks again guys for all the complements! Sorry I dont work as fast as the guys at intense building there twin turbo camaro, it must be boring :( ;) .

Small update:
Lots of welding, cutting/welding centering, measureing, grinding cutting/welding, well you get the idea, but the motor mounts are in and the holes are being enlarged for 3/4" grade 8 bolts.



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I was thinking of welding some sheet steel over the bolts/mounts to box em' in for the nice clean look but what do you guys think, show the work or go for clean?

[Forced_Firebird]

Show it ;).

[Tpunk]

If you are going to box it in yo might want to either weld the nut in or capture it in some way so you don't have to take the plate off if you ever need or want to change out the K. I'm more about it being functional than looking good so I'd probably just leave it as is.

[eaton_rice]

Update:


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_124_full.jpg

I didnt want the motor where it would be in a camaro (moved back) so I relocated the mounts forward and up to clear the rack

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_125_full.jpg

Total amount of the firewall removed

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_126_full.jpg

Patched up where the motor mount bolt holes used to be

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_127_full.jpg

Made a notch for the oil pan because the motor was moved forward

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_128_full.jpg

Trans installed, it takes up a lot of room

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_129_full.jpg

Motor installed, soooo small. Ill bet you fbody guys would like this kind of room :rofl:

[dougsgtp]

You said the rear end came out of a 79 mustang?

if thats not a typo, a stock 79 axle is a 7.5 inch, just as week as a camaro's

85 and up mustangs have/had the 8.8.

Id double check that.

v8 cougars, and thunderbirds from the 80's also had the 8.8

[eaton_rice]

You said the rear end came out of a 79 mustang?

if thats not a typo, a stock 79 axle is a 7.5 inch, just as week as a camaro's

85 and up mustangs have/had the 8.8.

Id double check that.

v8 cougars, and thunderbirds from the 80's also had the 8.8


Ya, not sure what year mustang it is from exactly. When I said 79 I probably was thinking that this housing can fit the 79-04 stangs (98-04 needs 1.5" spacers).

I do know its an 8.8 because in it I have:
FRPP girdle for an 8.8
New FRPP 3.73 gears for an 8.8
New seals and bearings for an 8.8

Thanks for bringing it to my attention Ill fix that:secret: .

[dougsgtp]

no prob just lookin out for ya, id hate to have you push the boost and split the housing

[car audio dave]

are you gonan fill up all that space with a TT kit?

this job is looking SICK!!! i like seeing the progress. why not use a GN motor? its still a 3.8, but a completely different animal. that would turn a few heads.

[dougsgtp]

are you gonan fill up all that space with a TT kit?

this job is looking SICK!!! i like seeing the progress. why not use a GN motor? its still a 3.8, but a completely different animal. that would turn a few heads.

stock for stock a 3800 series II is stronger and the heads believe it or not are better on the series II.

Now I know, who keeps that motor stock, IM just giving the pro's for the series II over the 3800

[Merlin]

since you got the room, oyu should try out the aussie intake so oyu can utilize the long runners. i know you have the p and p intakes, but its always worth a try.

[eaton_rice]

are you gonan fill up all that space with a TT kit?
this job is looking SICK!!! i like seeing the progress. why not use a GN motor? its still a 3.8, but a completely different animal. that would turn a few heads.


Na, gona go single, got a PT67 on order (for starters) and a custom cam
218/218 .528/.528 (its the dual pattern stattama stage 3 cam)

The GN motor is a great platform, however before I decided to do this project I purchased Intense stage two heads and a 3800 short block, so I had e'm liked e'm and decided to use e'm


since you got the room, oyu should try out the aussie intake so oyu can utilize the long runners. i know you have the p and p intakes, but its always worth a try.

It's near the end of the project and $$ is starting to get a little tight so Ill start with the camaro intake and probably move to the aussie intake down the road.

[Namrepus28]

Holy smokes. Just stumbled in here. Nice work! A huge amount of work obviously, but it's really coming along! S-M-R-T move positioning the motor forward of the firewall...If mine was like that the engine might not have to be pulled to fix my oil leak at the back...:(

Very very cool though. Now that could be a grand prix worth tearing it up in! (No offence to anyone! I just love RWD!)

And yeah, we F-body folks do wish we had that much room...****-ing spark plug changes!!!

[hotrod]

Wow, your my new best friend! Great work, great fabb skills. Keep us updated and get this thing up and running! Can't wait to see it finished.. :)

[eaton_rice]

Update:

Hydroboost install:

After the motor was installed it was apparent that there was no room for any sort of vaccum assist brake booster. I needed to keep power brakes so I switched to a hydro-boost from you guessed it, a 99 ford mustang. besides this systems compact package it has the ability to provide higher fluid pressure to the brakes that translate into better stopping power.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_131_full.jpg

Here is the booster and you can see the flange welded onto the left side (also right side to come) so the booster can be bolted into the stock location to retain as much strength as possible. Also the stock linkage was too short so that was cut off and a piece of the original was welded on.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_132_full.jpg

Here is the booster in place, everything slid in nice and easy with only minor trimming.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_133_full.jpg

Farther out view

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_134_full.jpg

View of the lines

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_135_full.jpg

Trans mounting:

Trans cross member

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_130_full.jpg

Cross member installed, it is held in place with two 3/4" bolts, I will be adding side brackets to stiffen up the member and prevent any rotation

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_136_full.jpg

Close up of the mount

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_137_full.jpg

View from underneath

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_138_full.jpg

Bad pic of the motor/trans installed for the first time

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_139_full.jpg

[Driver_10]

Absolutely impressive!! I wish that some aftermarket producer would make a hydrobooster bolt-on for the 4th gen f-body. Im going to have to hide a vac can some where in front of my radiator to compensate for my cam and turbo. I also had to install my radiator surge tank there as well. I envy the abundant space you have to do all of this.

You have my respect. Well done!!!

[eaton_rice]

I wish that some aftermarket producer would make a hydrobooster bolt-on for the 4th gen f-body

http://www.hydratechbraking.com
These guys will fix you up with a custom kit or:

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/products/universal/
for the diy'er, however you could just go with a mustang/large truck used unit for cheeper.

[Blainestang]

Axle: Not sure on the year but it is out of a mustang it is exactly the same as a 8.8 out of a sn95 ( I think but any ford 8.8 will work but they widened them three inches in....98.)

Just as a small correction in case anyone else was looking into doing this themselves, the '99 Mustangs were the first to get the widened housing and axles... the same year they went to the "New Edge" bodystyle.

Also, it is important to note that while the housings are virtually the same for Foxbody through '98 8.8 differentials, the 94-98's have the 5-lug axles, but the Foxbody axles are 4-lug (and shorter). However, the axles are interchangeable, so if you can get a Foxbody 8.8 housing, the SN95 (94-98) axles will swap in.



Differential: Same one out of a cobra/explorer, brings the spline count up to 31

Yeah, the other good news is that ALL the 8.8 differentials, gears, etc are interchangeable, no matter which housing/axle setup it is, although the spline number obviously must match between differential and axles.



Brakes: Calipers/Brackets off of any sn95 gt stang, cobras will work also.

Thus, how I'm installing Cobra 13"/11.65" brakes on my '93 Foxbody Notchback.



That is actually quite brilliant to go with ford rear driveline parts - there has to be a ton of it lying around or aftermarket, and it is not something that people would think about, but that has to have helped your cost.

Yes, Ford driveline parts are ridiculously abundant and cheap... especially if you're not looking for the wider 99+ stuff. Because my Foxbody is a 4-cylinder (for now...), I needed an 8.8 for the future build. So, I picked up a 8.8 housing with the differential and gears included from a Lincoln Mark VII for $75... and I picked up some 94-98 axles for FREE. Oh, and the Mark VII's had t-loc (posi) and 3.55 gears, stock, so I got an 8.8 rear w/ t-loc, 3.55's, and 94-98 axles for a grand total of $75. That's cheap :D



Update:

Hydroboost install:

After the motor was installed it was apparent that there was no room for any sort of vaccum assist brake booster. I needed to keep power brakes so I switched to a hydro-boost from you guessed it, a 99 ford mustang.

Just as another minor clarification, the V6 Mustangs never got the hydroboost, so you'll want to look for something from a V8 car.


Anyway, awesome work, and good luck.

[eaton_rice]

Update:

Adding some more trans support:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_140_full.jpg

Custom A-Arms.

Because of the placement of the K-member, camaro a-arms could not be used, likewise the oem grand prix a arms could not be used so....

Parts list:
3/4"-16 LH thread Heim joints with a 3/4 inch bore and teflon lined from summit

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_142_full.jpg

3.4-16 LH 1-1/2" x .120" x 2" Tube ends, from McMaster Carr, they were cheapest.

1-1/2" .120 wall DOM steel tubing for the arms , a little thick

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_141_full.jpg

On the car:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_143_full.jpg

On the car on the ground:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_148_full.jpg

Some shameless pic-whoring

Cool pic
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_144_full.jpg

Go-Cart motor (as my friend said)
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For the wheels
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[Driver_10]

Holy hell....

What can I say... Well @@#$%%^ done!!!

[Grimm]

Jesus you have a lot of room in that engine bay! Lol, i'm jealous. Looks like you could fit a v12 in there! :P Nice job!

[WarShrike]

With all that room, you could go crazy and do a v-mount intercooler/radiator setup like the JGTC cars do :eek:

[CHMLEON]

That 3.8 does look tiny in that engine bay.

[eaton_rice]

v-mount intercooler/radiator setup

Thats what I had been thinking and would love to do, howver I dont know what to do for a hood, any ideas guys?

[Merlin]

can you keep a stocker? if you can keep that thing stock, oyu would be set for a sleeper

[WarShrike]

Maybe you could have a shop louver the front portion of the hood and box it in on the inside?

[Racer X]

That's just frikin' awsome!!!:eek:

[Sandman]

Just found this. You have alot of room under the hood there, more then me. That motor looks so small under your hood. Looks like a badass project, good luck finishing it up.

[eaton_rice]

Been busy with having fun but here is an update

Got my cam installed 218/218 .512/.512 114 lsa I chose the stattama stage3 turbo cam and went split pattern because I was told those cams are for cars with full exhaust and turbos with small ex ARs. Did the install with the motor in the car, easiest grand prix cam install in history.
obligatory pic:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_150_full.jpg

Tried my hand at aluminum polishing, 60grit, 100grit, 200grit, polish wheel, didn't come out to bad

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_151_full.jpg

P&P'd lower runners, these came out nice, spent a week making them just right

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_152_full.jpg

Building the trunk getting ready for the fuel cell

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_153_full.jpg

I need some help from the club also, if anyone has pcm connector pinouts for a 1997 GT and a 2000 GTP that would be awesome

Thanks
Mike

[Driver_10]

Thats awsome work bro! I wish that I could give you the info that lookin for...sorry.

[blackhawk007one]

Impressive. Most impressive.

Holy crap. I must say this is pretty freakin awesome man. major kudos.

Just out of curiousity, are you planning on bringing the interior back to stock, or leaving it stripped for dragging?

[Jaffar]

When this project is done, it will be one amazing machine. I do agree with someone else here in that you should go for a twin turbo setup, though. Keep up the good work.:worship:

[Shadow3B]

Great job. This really inspires me to start planning further with what I wanted to do with my GTP.
Could you post more pics or just send me every shot and angle you have. I would get my own but I am on my 3rd deployment in Iraq. Would be a great big help. Thanks:worship:

gp99gt50cal@aol.com

[eaton_rice]

Shadow, sent ya an e mail ;)

Not so much of an update but I was having a slow saturday so:
I moved the chassis out side for the winder for the snow blower etc:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_154_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_155_full.jpg

Moved the motor and trans into the basement for turbo header / serpentine construction in complete comfort.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_156_full.jpg

I know you have all seen a turbo before but:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_157_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_158_full.jpg

[BlackBird01]

I want this....simply amazing...keep up the great work..

[OneSlowL36]

Dude....sweet.....

[intrigue98]

this is my first time seeing this project and i gotta give you alot of credit for doing all this work yourself. i hope someday i'll be able to do the same and have a cool, custom build like yours.

[oltorftd]

this is a ridiculous project :thumbsup:

you should put 2 of those engines in there. they would fit...

[nfswift]

I think, mayhap, that the results garnered from this fine automobile shall be

OFF THEE HEEZY!!!

You're doing what GM shoulda done!

[MyFirstCamaro]

its looks like by the price your spending you could have gotten the new rear wheel v8 grand prix oo o o did i say grandprix i ment g8 :)

but looks like an awesome job dude cant wait to see it done

[Oface]

which holes are you going to mount the injectors in the heads or LIM?

[Night Hawk]

Awesome project....

Good luck...

[David8399]

how is this coming along?

[reggie]

fuckin awsome:worship:

[GETGONE]

That's a LOT of work for a V6 GTO! LOL! I always thought the GP would be sweet if it was RWD instead of lame FWD. I miss my 85 G body Grand Prix. Lousy low HP 3.8 but loved the body style.

[eaton_rice]

Thanks guys,

Im just taking the chassis out of winter storage today, Ordered a tubular k-member because I would like a lighter front end, and I need to re-do the motor mounts because of rack interference problems.

Also anyone know where to get 304 ss 3 way formed collectors? I have only found one place on line.

Mike

[eaton_rice]

which holes are you going to mount the injectors in the heads or LIM?I will be mounting the injectors in the heads. I have not decided if I will run direct port or not on the other bosses. Ill at least get it running and dialed in before I decide


its looks like by the price your spending you could have gotten the new rear wheel v8 grand prix oo o o did i say grandprix i ment g8 :)


Nice cars with nice numbers however I am not such a fan of the body style, I guess Im a sucker for the 90's cars


Things are going slow, lots of little things to do, not much pic worthy but here are a few of the bigger things:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_160_full.jpg


Moved the main wiring harness up and over to make room for the exhaust hard to see but its not welded in yet, patched up a hole in the fire wall and started
the dog house. I konw the color is off I dont know how that happoned, I oredered some new paint and well try again.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_162_full.jpg

I was having to drop the K-member to remove the motor/trans and I did not like that so I adjused the air box. A little notch where the evaporator used to be (no ac).

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_159_full.jpg

Finished my front A-arms I just got the k-member a few min ago and the spacers are on order

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_163_full.jpg

K-Member, I will be modifing this guy, its sad because its nice.


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_164_full.jpg

Making some high flow fuel rails to work as a parallel system. These are stock l32 fuel rails, the original system is returnless so I removed the supply line and caps at each end and will be having someone weld some -6 stainless AN fittings on the end. To put the size into perspective the OD is 0.752" stainless where as a stock L67 rail has a OD of 0.5" and is not stainless, thats a full .252" larger, nice.

I also set up an F-Quick account for higher rez images fquick.com/rwdgp

[triple_l82]

Pretty sweet dude, im subscribed to how this turns out. You can put in your fquick garage in your user profile. then it will display below your name.

[eaton_rice]

Thanks! fixed the fquick thing, however I have already hit the max number of albums and photos in some of the albums!


News:

My trans has a home!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_165_full.jpg

I preserved the oem type flange where the firewall meets the bolt in plate for the rack/booster save the bolt in flange. Note the fwd bell housing shape. I forgot how much I hate sheet mettle. It looks a little sideways in this pic but I spent too much time making sure its not.

Inside:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_166_full.jpg

Not quite done yet

[triple_l82]

Lookin good dude. Gonna be sweet.

[mofo123]

niice build I love those cobra wheels as wheel...major props to you.

[eaton_rice]

Starting my transmission rebuild, made a new section for it at cardomain:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3064924

and just the pics at fquick

It includes step by step procedures and pictures as I follow ATSG, when it is complete I'll toss a thread into the trans section

Here is a list of upgraded parts that Ill be adding, feel free to chime in with opinions I would like some constructive critisizm:

Billit intermediate servo
Billit overdrive servo
13 vane pump
29 element doubble cage input sprag
Red eagle 2-4 wide band with new oem band drum
Z-Pack 3-4 clutch pac
Rebuild kit w/ gaskets etc
Steel pistons (forward etc)
Beast reaction shell
Probably a different accumulator valve train assembly
Wide sun gear bushing
Wide stator support bushing
Possiable oversized boost valve
1-2 pinless accumulator piston
2-3 pinless accumulator piston
High rpm pump slide output spring
Man vb
Unknown tq converter
Also there is a company saying they are going to release a planitary gear set with:
2.66:1 1st, 1.55:1 2nd, 1:1 3rd, .64:1 4th
Great ratios, I dont know how strong they will be though


So far so good
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/3064000-3064999/3064924_11_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/3064000-3064999/3064924_16_full.jpg

There are more pics if you hit the links I will update that page as I go (I just started today)
Just waiting on my T-50+ bit

[Dr. Channard]

This is gonna be sweet when you get done, cant believe you have been working on this almost a year now

[eaton_rice]

Actually I started this 3 summers ago :shiner:(only work when its warm out)

Finished all the welding and painting prep work for the fire wall and trans tunnle, also I decided to tweak the k-member mounts a bit. Going slow because I am splitting the trans / car work also lots of little things to tie up like cleanning up all the spot welds where things were removed, cleaning up nicks where the grinder went where it wasn't suposed to cleaning up some light rust spots etc. re-checked the chassis and k for squareness, everyting is within 1/16 of an inch at its absolute worst(rear left to front right diagonal mesurement):drivin:

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_167_full.jpg

[eaton_rice]

Updates:

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_168_full.jpg


K-member, rack and lca's installed and everything painted, its amazing how fast everything goes together when it does not have to be fabbed

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_169_full.jpg


LCA's installed, I used a friends lathe to copy the umi spacers

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_170_full.jpg

Chopped and gutted the stock struts to drop in some koni inserts

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_171_full.jpg

stock shock guts and oil

Waiting on trans parts and ordered a main loop and going to pick up more steel for an 8 point cage

Also, went to the races this weekend and Im still pumped up from all the testosterone so here are a few race pics (grand am gt)

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368574_14_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368574_15_full.jpg

[eaton_rice]

Painted the trunk:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_172_full.jpg


Been using a cheep hvlp sprayer, working nice, I would not want to paint the exterior with it though.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_174_full.jpg


Got the rear portion of the drive shaft tunnle done, it does angle up however there is no reason behind that, i just though it would look nicer.

I hate the step look however it makes sure there is no horizontal surfaces under the car to hold watter and rust.

[Merlin]

the tunnel in our cars flairs up anyway so dont worry about it.

you think that this may be done this summer? or is it going to be another year?

[eaton_rice]

the tunnel in our cars flairs up anyway so dont worry about it. Nice to know thx

Also It has to get done this year, I had no idea the size of the project when I started and its cutting into all sorts of other things, Im aming for a first start July 9th (not realistic but you cant blame a guy for trying)

Also does any one know if there are any differneces (year to year) for the alt bracket/tensioner assembly, alternator, and Power steering pump?

[Merlin]

shouldnt be on the f bodys. i know that there is a change on the gp's

[Dr. Channard]

So when this is done your not gonna gay it up by stripping out the interior and making it look like a race car are you? I was hoping this project would still be streetable with full interior and a stock exterior look....

[eaton_rice]

Sure am!
http://anti-rice.com/images/vw.jpg

Just kidding

The only appearance mods it will have is
lowered,
svt wheels,
tasteful led tails (pictured below when I test fitted them on my white gp)
a shaker hood if and only if I need the clearance
Side exhaust if its too much work to send it out the rear

The roll cage is purely for functionality only it will have a full interior panels headliner and carpet heat but no ac and hopefully the back seat will be accessible but im not holding my breath also stock bumpers and spoiler and hood if I can help it.

I also plan on driving it most days in the spring summer and fall

I dont plan on it being a trailer queen for the track or anything like that.

LED tails when off almost stock looking
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368574_17_full.jpg



LED tails on (parking lights):
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368574_16_full.jpg


Some may not like them however I do

[eaton_rice]

Finished the drive shaft tunnel, here it is primed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_176_full.jpg


Underside painted, I think im going to fix the subframe connectors, make them nicer
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_177_full.jpg

Trunk firewall (aluminum)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_175_full.jpg

Installing konis into the stock strut housings:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_178_full.jpg


Checking to see if the bushings I got from summit will fit: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=ENS%2D9%2D8101R&N=700+400008+115&autoview=sku
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_179_full.jpg

a little extra thread but thats ok they fit

The shocks came with this rubber sleeve that snugs the shock into the housing and makes it weather tight, might not be the intended application but it works here
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_180_full.jpg

Choped out the bottom of the housing (and trimed the top) to drop the strut down to give some extra travel because the car will be lowered 2+ inches, the silver sleeve comes with the shocks and works well to center the shock in the housing.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_181_full.jpg

some new updates on my trans page as well

[phoenix_rising]

Thats pretty cool and I bet it will be lots of fun to drive.

[eaton_rice]

Thx pheonix

Roll bar install:
For anyone with a W body the below is applicable to you, if you want a cage the part number from jegs will provide you with a pre bent hoop notched tubing and mounting plates. The fit of the hoop is great you only have to cut the bracing tubing to length and of course a welder.

Instead of spending a few hrs with a tube bender and driving 2 hrs to the closest speed shop for steel I decided to try a jegster cage:
P/N550-944703K Monte Carlo 1995-02
The cage came with a pre bent hoop, base plates and tubing with notches cut on one end so the rest has to be trimmed.
Tubing and plates:

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_188_full.jpg

Notched tubing
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_189_full.jpg

Hoop fit:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_190_full.jpg

About a hands width between the head liner and the hoop top
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_191_full.jpg

Cage tacked in
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_193_full.jpg

Cage:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_194_full.jpg

Fit:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_196_full.jpg

There needs to be some seat modification, the side plastic needs to be removed and the switch relocated and the bar contacts the door slightly but it fits. I would like a longer side bar, maybe next year.

Got the coilovers installed to
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_195_full.jpg

[GaryCCR]

That's the most badass d/d build I've ever seen. Awesome work!!! Maybe you can make a DVD and sell copies on ebay about the conversion lol. Keep us posted!:)

[Dr. Channard]

When this is done im gonna drive to wherever you are so i can have a ride in it;)

[eaton_rice]

Gary, No need to buy a DVD, all my pics are at cardomain:)

Mr. Fink, Fill up your tank, Im in good ol' Connecticut

Updates:
Had to remove the head liner to finish the welds (gives another inch of clearance
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_199_full.jpg

Fuel cell (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&p=1&mpage=6&tmode=1&smode=1#) in, making the straps tomorrow.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_197_full.jpg

Mounted the pump, A1000 with 100m prefilter and ran a line, I forgot how much a love making braided lines.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_198_full.jpg

[Driver_10]

I know its been said before but Ill say it again. Bad-assed. I salute you

:texas:

[eaton_rice]

Thx driver!

Small update, Vacation for two weekends, brother and finance came home for a weekend, wedding, family reunion with cousins from out of state another weekend, seems like I have no time to work:rant:

Anyway, anyone have any interior tips, mainly carpeting, its not my strong area, also I decided not to use the OEM seats (dont fit well) so I am looking for some ones that will work with a five point but not ricey, some nice side bolstering would be nice too, also looking for fairly cheep because I just need to get this thing done, I can replace them down the road.

Trying to figure out what to do with the rear, I might toss in the OEM seat cushions from the front seats or simply carpet the whole thing.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_201_full.jpg


Trying to fit the OEM carpeting in the front also got my B&M rachet hammer shifter in the thing shifts awesome and it feels like a rock mounted directly to the frame rail, I fabricated the mount to tie together the two halves of the frame rail together.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_200_full.jpg

[MusicMan]

I haven't seen this yet, this is incredible, absolutely incredible. You should invite us all to a party when you get it done. Wanna make me a rwd 94 Bonneville next? Except with a 572 bb :devil:

[eaton_rice]

Party sounds good, BYOB,

Installing the center console, had to cut it down 2" in the rear and all but one inch or so in the front and re-create mount points on the tunnel, major pain took four hours to re-shape the console and center insert.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_202_full.jpg

The stock seats were too wide, the actual foam/cloth would fit however all the slides and mechanics were too wide on the tunnel side. The new seats provide 5pt harness (required by nhra at quarter times I am looking for) and they only way 44lbs so a small weight savings. Not happy about having to get the new seats but it was a necessary evil, they hold you in great though. Another perk is the mount height is a LOT lower, that has always been a pet peve of mine. You are sitting (IIRC) almost a foot off of the floor board, I am 6'3" so lower is better, I sat in it tonight and it is much lower and the side bolstering holds you right in, feels much more like you are in the car rather than riding over it.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_204_full.jpg

Installed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_203_full.jpg

[tcrocker162000]

this is an interesting project! bad ass man

[00mistedGTP]

awesome work....very impressive.

[98FIREguy]

doing burnouts in the car would be amazing, just pull up rev it a little then bam WTF rear wheel drive IN A GRAND PRIX.

AND THE CROWD GOES WILD :worship:

[Z28_DAD]

this thread has inspired me to do the same to my GTP. but im going to wait till i can get a decent daily driver.
vette irs and t56? that would be killer

[Merlin]

this thread has inspired me to do the same to my GTP. but im going to wait till i can get a decent daily driver.
vette irs and t56? that would be killer

Just buy a GTO, its the exact same thing.

[Z28_DAD]

Just buy a GTO, its the exact same thing.

but i like the body style of the GTP, which is why i have one, and not a GTO. plus GTOs are rwd, so seeing one doing a RWD burnout, or lifting the front tires at the track would be, um, yea, boring. but if its in a GTP, everyone would be all like WTF?!?!?!?!:thinking:

[eaton_rice]

Things are progressing slowly, I am finishing up the ten thousand little half finished jobs on the car so while a lot is getting done, nothing new or huge is going on.

Painted and undercoated the wheel wells
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_212_full.jpg?461022-233

Had to do some fab work on the top standoff for the tail light, Fit and installed e'm
[image]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_209_full.jpg?290922-233]/image]

Steering linkage, this was a major headach for me and was worried about finishing it without spending $$$ on custom or flaming river junk
Making some room in the fire wall
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_207_full.jpg?290922-233

Aluminum cover shaft installed along with the intermediate shaft and gromit. 1" heim support bearing on its way
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_208_full.jpg?290922-233

Took a video of the shaft so I could see if it was working well (cant turn the wheel and watch it work at the same time)

http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=6897

Chopped out part of the center console, becuse smoth shifting with the lower seats was uncomfortable. Looks like crap like this any one have some ideas????????????

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_205_full.jpg?290922-233

Welded in a steel sump tray to protect it and make things easier to seal
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_210_full.jpg?270822-233

Tank straps and some more carpet
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_211_full.jpg?270822-233

Had to heat and bend the gas and break peddle linkage to move them to the left due to the new trans tunnel

---------------NOTE TO ANYONE INTERESTED --------------
I am trying to sell my intense stage two heads and cam as a combo, they are the same heads that are on my motor right now, fully re-built by my machine shop. Ill be making a thread in the for sale section tomorow.

[Z28_DAD]

is that an f-body intermediate shaft?

[eaton_rice]

Yes that is an ls1 k member, ls1 rack, ls1 intermediate shaft, stock grand prix u-joint on the end of the steering column and two grand pix doubble D shafts welded back to back to get the proper length. Steering support came today, A heim joint with a 1" bore, I had to laugh when I got it its as big as my hand, pics probably on monday.

[eaton_rice]

Giant support:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_213_full.jpg?242708-238


Support installed, started brake lines
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_216_full.jpg?412808-238

E-Brake installed, I just cut the stock cable to lenght, I sliped inside the ford bracket nicely (only running 1 wheel e-brake now)

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_217_full.jpg?075307-239

[FlyinGTP]

so i was wondering about the knuckles on your setup. Since you went from rear steer to front steer did you just install the knuckles on opposite sides to have the tie rod end bores in the proper location or did you borrow knuckles from another vehicle that already had the tie rod bores in the front?

[eaton_rice]

You are 100% correct, I simply flipped the stock knuckles to get the bores in the front. The problem I have now is the bore is conical with the wide part starting at the top (top mount) and the camaro rack comes in from the bottom so I need the wide part starting at the bottom. Anyone have any ideas?

[FlyinGTP]

Your using the aluminum knuckles right? If so i have a simple solution but will require some machining. Just tig weld them up and then have a shop taper them how you need it.

[eaton_rice]

I found a 3 fluit countersink with the correct angle, ill give that a shot, either that or ill just drill it out and use a heim joint, it would also save me from having to shorten the tie rod ends also.

More stuff:

Finished brake lines
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_222_full.jpg?040821-247

Made some aluminum clamps with stainless pems and nuts
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_218_full.jpg?500121-247

The larger ones for the axle to give me a place to mount my brake lines, I didint feel like welding some threaded rod/pems to the axle
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_220_full.jpg?500121-247

Fuel pressure regulator and filter installed up front
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_219_full.jpg?500121-247

I had to toss some wheels on to pull it out of the garage to fix the door return spring so I decided to take a pic. The day I took this it looked like rain so instead of letting it rain on my ride and cause all the steel grinding dust to rust and ruin the paint I decided to wash it, however with all the over spray and dust and grime I had to clay the entire car a simple wash wasn't pulling it off.

Also when I put the car back up on stands I could tell that it was much more ridged
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_221_full.jpg?500121-247

[Dr. Channard]

that car is so fuckin sic......youve been doing an amazing job and i cant wait until its done....How hard is gonna be to get all the factory lights and interior parts to work{Speedo, etc}

[giiventofly]

that is soooo sick. gtps should have been rwd from the factory!

[car audio dave]

are those cobra wheels?

car is looking great. cant wait to see it done. i wish you would have used a buick GN motor since you went rwd on it. I guess that can always be done at a later date.

[reggie]

this is awsome man. That's so much freakin work. Absolutely can't wait to see the finished product

[eaton_rice]

Thanks again guys for the complements

As for the GN 3.8 vs the L67, had the heads, had the motor, had the HP tuners also because it's the OEM motor in the car I can use the stock (almost) harness and PCM so in CT ill be able to pass emissions:secret: and register it.

Been a week or so since iv been under the car, starting my senior project in school working with cl&p jot a promo at work to EE and completely loaded down with work so time is scarce. Also been waiting on that one last flex line for 2 weeks. Also had to do some dumb things like hit up the junk yard last saturday to get worthless things like bake/gas peddle linkage clips :no:

Pics:
Had to modify everything on the car, even the flexible brake line retaining clips.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_223_full.jpg?044420-261

The rear soft lines were too short to run direct to the frame with the width of the tires I was looking for so I had to run a singular center line, not my favorite idea and makes a mess of lines but:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_224_full.jpg?044420-261

The chassis is almost entirely done so the next thing is finish up the trans, so hopefully the next update will be the motor in the car.

Because of the lack-luster update here is a pic doin some donuts in my cousins Blown 502ci bb Cheby silverado.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368574_18_full.jpg?083020-261

[Driver_10]

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_205_full.jpg?290922-233

Ahhh... I see what your talking about.

you could try using fiberglass to carve out a suitable shape.

[eaton_rice]

Driver, good idea, glass will probably be the only way to go

Haven't been doing much, just kind of poking at it with a stick. $$ is tight, no one bought my heads and the trans died on my white gp (again) and it's cold! So here is what I did get done:

I hated the original motor mount idea I had going and it created a lot of problmes so I moved them back about 4 inches each.. It was a pain because on the drivers side I had to worry about the knock sensor, starter, rack, intermediate shaft and ps lines but I like the new design 10x better

The pic is a little hard to see because so much is going on. Looking from the end of the brake master cylinder
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_225_full.jpg?055012-304

Also now they are tubular instead of the ugly tube steel (pass side) Excuse the appearance they are only tacked in until I pull the motor to finish up the welds
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_226_full.jpg?055012-304

So that's it, motor and trans coming out once again, going in the basement. Maybe this year ill actually get around to building the serpentine and turbo setup inside. Still need a converter, waist gate, thinking of new heads and a few other nic nacs.

Finished the mounts 100x happier than last years version:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_231_full.jpg?291910-308

Started to mock up the intercooler and rad, should be a simple install. I went with this setup to minimize the volume of cold side piping. Ignore the 2x2 square steel, thats just for spacing. Was going to go v-mount but the rad is huge and I dont think a crazy v mount hood would look good on the car
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_228_full.jpg?401110-308

There is about 9" from the front of the serp belt to the rad and subtract another 4 for the fans that only leaves 5 inches for the turbo so well see what happens there.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2368000-2368999/2368085_230_full.jpg?401110-308

[jrenzine]

hi, I was lookin to do the same with my 95 cutlass supreme convertible, would u be able to help me out with that? I loooove the mods! keep up the awesome work!

[Nobe25]

WOW That is incredible!!:eek:

[Jore Knight]

so did this car ever get finished?

[dbyoho]

idk but thats one hell of an awesome project. i looked for this thread a while back and couldnt find it now its bookmarked.lol still think they should have came rwd from factory:worship::):worship::):eek::eek: can sumone say sleeper:secret:
dave

[firebirdkid96]

Siick!

[eaton_rice]

Project sleeps for the winters, $$ and temperature, probably starting again in about 4 weeks.

[t-topv6]

holy crap...
your my new hero, i love all the work your doing

[eaton_rice]

Back from the dead, got started on it again this past week only got a fiew hrs into it but here it is:

progress(only a few hrs in):

My cousin got his shop almost up and running, so I media blasted the UIM and LIM, the difference is amazing it looks new
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850232_large.jpg

Got my last turbo part, I actually started laughing when I opened the waist gate, I had forgotten they are larger in real life
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850233_large.jpg

Got my remaining header parts, I figured I would polish them up during my lunch breaks
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850237_large.jpg

When I had installed the rear, all 3 years ago I had different plans for the car so I went with the cheep stock springs and crappy kyb shocks
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850236_large.jpg

Then I maid the custom coilovers for the front using stiffer springs and and single adjustable konis and wanted the rears to match so I needed a short shock with at least a 3" travel twin tube rebound adjustable coilover or coilover adaptable with eyelit or heim ends, the ones I found were the strange 10 way adjustable aluminum coilover shocks, real nice looking units
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850239_large.jpg

Made some more mounts:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850241_large.jpg

First try was mounting them on the frame rail and making an extention to the axle however as shown below they hang down waaaayyy to far, the bottom is actually even with the lowe bead of the rim so if I ever got a flat the lower mount could hit the road, not good
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850242_large.jpg

So the next step was to mount them inside the frame rail but I needed some mounting points so I made a new cross member
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850235_large.jpg

Installed it between the rear cage struts
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850234_large.jpg

And installed the coilovers, looks much better and waaay more ground clearance (will revamp the lower mount just tacked in for now)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850240_large.jpg

I did a test with the first coilover mount setup and the 225 lb springs were very harsh, so now that they are mounted at an angle they should feel a bit softer

Got front and rear sway bar and poly mounts and end links etc, those are the next to go in, rebuild the rear leaky caliper new heads and converter and the motor is going in for the LAST time, hopefully in about 4 weeks

[arcticbird45]

nice update!

[oltorftd]

you get the "dedicated to your project" award.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Wow! First time i've seen this posting. You really took on a major project.
In the end you'll have something special. Nice fab work.:thumbsup:

[radomirthegreat]

I registered here so I could subscribe. I'm glad you are coming out with more updates. This is a very awesome project.

[eaton_rice]

Finally got a few min to work on the ride, been working like an animal trying to push prototypes out the door. Went to the races the other weekend saw the Historic Grand Prix races

This guy was ripping down the straitaway waving to the cameras
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4475/1481/23685740023_large.jpg

Finally got the coilovers installed along with the rear sway bar and an insulating rubber pad under the fuel pump to hopefully take out some noise, I hope I wont be pulling the rear apart again any time soon
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850244_large.jpg

Its kinda need driving behind the car you can see all the goodies
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850246_large.jpg

Took a long time......again to set the ride height always tedious but it came out good, here it is slammed still with some good strut travel however I put everything in to be able to lift it up a couple inches
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850245_large.jpg

I got a bit OCD and decided to weld a safty strap over the top of the crossmember because that will be holding the weight of the car so now there is major amounts of steel holding this thing together
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850243_large.jpg

Next thing on the agenda is to weld in some secondary small mounting points for the transmission crossmember and re drill one seat hole that was slightly off
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4475/1481/23685740024_large.jpg

[Dr. Channard]

god, has it been 3 years on this project already....

[querro55]

awesome:eek: i want that on my car

[Driver_10]

Sir... I am always in awe when I see your projec car. Ive had some recent hang-ups but I feel a bit more inspired after seeing your progress. Im gonna hop on my wielder after I get off work this evening.

[triple_l82]

Wow three years really. You are dedicated. Man this is going to be one hell of a car.

[Bob]

bad fucking ass.

[reggie]

freakin amazing.

[eaton_rice]

Thanks again guys!

Not to much going on, ordering heads, just got the new tq converter $$$$$$$$$$$

QUESTION: Can I re-use my 4 layer MLS gaskets, never been run just torqued down for a year http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/image/s8.gif

Measuring my old heads, sold e'm finallllly to a friend
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850248_large.jpg

Pulled the heads, ISII SI valves
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850247_large.jpg

Coated pistons
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850249_large.jpg

Oil pan to pickup clearance, got the two as a pair from L36 camaro (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&appid=&p=&mpage=8&key=&language=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#), looks a little close to me, normal?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850255_large.jpg

New sump location (will be adding more pan for the amount removed, only going to increase the capacity slightly)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850257_large.jpg

will look better when done
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850256_large.jpg

New converter 3500 stall 2.0str manufacturer gave me the K but I forgot it, stalled at 3500 for my weight/hp/gearing
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850250_large.jpg

Painted K-Member, had to pull everything off and pull it out to sand it down and paint it, what a pain
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850251_large.jpg

Added a re-inforcement collar and lateral brace to the a-Arms on the but weld joint, waiting on sway bar (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&appid=&p=&mpage=8&key=&language=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850259_large.jpg

Got ALLLLL my hot side (pre turbo) parts finally, polishing them up
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850258_large.jpg

Had a subframe connector running under where my heal would be while driving, pushed it up just a bit to much so I had to cut it out and send it out to the left
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850253_large.jpg

Last but not least, working on a better center consolehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&appid=&p=&mpage=8&key=&language=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850252_large.jpg

Still kinda sucks

[Sparky]

This is amazing.

[eaton_rice]

Been working my fingers to the bone trying to get the motor in, just about 3.25*10^26 little problems that I have to run here/there/and everywhere in between to get it done but:

Finally got my ZZPS3 Heads:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850260_large.jpg

Big valves compared to stock:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850261_large.jpg

Heads installed:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850262_large.jpg

Finished the Oil pan and motor mounts:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850263_large.jpg

The new mill together:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850265_large.jpg

The new mill IN!! for GOOD!!
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850266_large.jpg

Underneath:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850267_large.jpg

Making a adapter plate for the TB for the cold side:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850268_large.jpg

Pulled my o'll north star TB off my GTP and cleaned it up getting ready to install it on the new car (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&appid=&p=2&mpage=8&key=&language=&tmode=1&smode=1&s=#):
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850264_large.jpg

[Dr. Channard]

Rocking! I've been following this for years!

[01GPGT]

the under shot is how it should have been from the factory:devil:

[triple_l82]

Man this is one long project. I'm still hooked on it.

[OneSlowL36]

lovin it! keep up the good work!

[eaton_rice]

Thanks guys, more updates:

Found some stuff I didnt like about the oil pan so I had to make a engine holding fixture drop the k member pull the pan, modify that and some other stuff so that took a week or so.

Finished that and mounted the intercooler and rad:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850269_large.jpg

From the back:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850270_large.jpg

P&P'd the inlet to the UIM to match the TB size:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850272_large.jpg

Trying to find the best location for the turbo:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850271_large.jpg

Starting on the headers (sorry blurry) I am getting to hate the plug location, there could be so many more options if not for the plugs and wires:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850273_large.jpg

[Namrepus28]

Wow, this is phenomenal. It's really coming together. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

[eaton_rice]

Keep hangin in everybody, will be running soon!

Headers! Actually really enjoyed making these guys

Working on the headers:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850275_large.jpg

Completed headers:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850276_large.jpg

Header 1 on:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850278_large.jpg

Header 2 on:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850277_large.jpg

Exhaust (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3776377&p=1&mpage=8&tmode=1&smode=1#):
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850274_large.jpg

Turbo and waist gate installed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850279_large.jpg

[MusicMan]

Holy crap, the finish line is in sight it looks like.

[radomirthegreat]

Awesome! Keep going! That is excellent work.

[Namrepus28]

And here we are buying our headers like a bunch of suckers...lol.

Very nice, this is going to be one amazing car when it hits the streets.

[triple_l82]

Glad to finaly see it coming together. Good work on those headers. It looks really good.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Very nice work! Any idea when she'll be ready?

[eaton_rice]

Thanks guys lots o work


And here we are buying our headers like a bunch of suckers...lol.
I wish I could have bought headers like a sucker :rofl:


Very nice work! Any idea when she'll be ready? Thanks man you have a nice looking machine as well. As for running, I am aming to drive the thing to my company picnic sept 4th so well see. It always looks like 2 weeks then something always comes up:dammit:

Small update: still waiting on post turbo hot piping, t-bolt clamps, cold side piping and silicone couplers but:

Finished the fuel rails -10 wayyyyyy overkill but it looks cool, L32 rails modified with -10 an stainless fittings, the rails are so big I could have gone larger. Still need to pressure test them though
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850284_large.jpg

Borrowed a sewing machine, got some leather made a shift boot, got all the linkage sorted out and leather wrapped the center console, looks a lot better but still not happy with it. (Last years b-day present in the background)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850283_large.jpg

I am going to have:
Boost
Oil Pressure
Wideband AFR
Trans pressure
Trans temp
EGT
Voltage
Fuel pressure
And possibly tach (man valve body trans)
So I needed some extra room, I wanted to keep a close eye on trans pressure so I wanted to bring the gauge up on the dash, not installed yet just wanted to get your guys opinions on it. Just some left over ss exhaust tubing will paint it black.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850286_large.jpg

[ricardo23]

05-15-2007, 09:31 AM

Updates coming, I am hoping to have this monster running by summers end.


i guess that ship has sailed.. hahaha.. jk man..
GREAAT GREAAT project.. i really hope everything goes off as desired..
i have a GP and i wet-dream havin a diferential in mine..
GM should really had give the GP a special RWD version.. so you
would stress out like you have been in these 3 years.. but where would
be the fun in it? hahaha.. keep the post updated..

[eaton_rice]

Updates coming, I am hoping to have this monster running by summers end.

Uhh, thought I deleted that one, that quote may hold more truth for this year though.

Updates:

Drilled and tapped UIM TB coolant passages to block them, cross drilled the manifold to keep things from getting backed up when the t stat is closed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850289_large.jpg

Made an adapter elbow out of aluminum to go from l36 camaro UIM to Cadi Northstar TB
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850290_large.jpg

Removed the stock locking hardware for the coolant lines drilled and tapped them for 1/2"npt to give myself some extra room
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850292_large.jpg

Finishing waste gate plumbing
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850288_large.jpg

Installed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850293_large.jpg

Down pipe installed
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850291_large.jpg

Finished up the exhaust crossover
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850296_large.jpg

Finished up the cold side and installed bov
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850287_large.jpg

Kept the cold side volume to a minimum
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850295_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850294_large.jpg

Not sure on the BOV it was a b-day present from my bro though.

[death trap]

Man that looks good! I have read this intire thred and your doing some sweet work!

[Firehawk094]

This is by far the greatest project I have ever seen...this needs to be entered in the guinness book of records.....for the first: "I wanna RWD GP how do I do it and is it possible" thread. There is TOO many guys out there wasting everyones time asking those questions and not actually doing it. "Just blowing smoke".

Dude 5 stars...your going to the finals!!!

[01GPGT]

this should be stickied:worship:

[Sandman]

This thing has been a long time coming, happy to see that it's almost done. Great work man.

[FlyinGTP]

I think this is number 9 or so. There ar e few with series 2 3800, one with a gn powertrain. And a couple of outlaw type cars with big blocks in them. and i know of a couple more in the works as well.

What i love about this project is how well it was documented and that all the work was done by the owner. a lot of people pay shops to do this kind of stuff. Its nice to see someone whip out a welder and start fabbing.

[Italia]

this whole thread is made out of awesome.

[eaton_rice]

Cool thanks again guys, here's some more stuff:

Down pipe dumping out right under the pass seat and got the dipstick done
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850297_large.jpg

New alt and belt installed, belt is already tight so tensioner is just for fun not the correct belt routing but it should work
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850298_large.jpg

Wiring
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850300_large.jpg

Hood installed and it fits!
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850306_large.jpg

Got the booster plumbing in
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850301_large.jpg

Rack plumbing in
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850302_large.jpg

Snuck a cooler in
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850303_large.jpg

Installed the bumpstear kit to get rid of the nasty geometry from the drop rack
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850299_large.jpg

Mounted coolant overflow bottle
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850305_large.jpg


***********Need a little help***********
Anyone have the pinout for the two connectors attached to the drivers side wheel well?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850304_large.jpg

Also anyone have the pinout/operation for the transaxle range switch, I just want to tell the computer it is in drive at all times.

[insaneABOT]

Car looks awesome.

[FlyinGTP]

i can get pin outs for anything you need. Do you have any idea what those to connectors go to? that would be helpful in finding the pin outs for it.

[tripwire1124]

its..its...its...so freaking awsome! i would sh1t my pants if i saw a GP burnig out in RWD. Keep it up, so freaking bad@ss!

[eaton_rice]

Thanks flyin, I appreciate it but I ended up getting the pinouts the next morning.

Just fyi for a search
3 pin connector = C103
A = Yellow, Circuit 5, Ignition Switched Power Feed
B = N/C
C = Red, Circuit 502, Fusible Link Battery Feed

8 pin connector = C101
A = GRY, Circuit 803, Change Oil Indicator Signal
B = DK GRN/WHT, Circuit 762, A/C Request Signal
C = GRY, Circuit 1787, MSVA High
D = TAN, Circuit 800, UART Serial Data Communication
E = DK BLU, Circuit 1493, Performance Shift Indicator Signal
F = WHT, Circuit 345, Magnetic Variable Steering Assist Motor Feed-Low Effort
G = DK BLU, Circuit 229, Theft Deterrent Fuel
H = PPL, Circuit 1807, Class 2 Serial Data Communication


TR Range Switch C1
A = ORN/BLK, Circuit 434, Park/Neutral Input
B = ORN, Circuit 840, Fused Batter Feed
C = LT GRN, Circuit 275, Transaxle Range Switch Feed-PARK
D = BLK, Circuit 1050, Ground
E = PPL, Circuit 6, Starter Solenoid Feed
F = LT GRN, Circuit 24, Backup Lamp Feed
G = YEL, Circuit 5, Ignition Switch Power Feed

TR Range Switch C2
A = WHT, Circuit 776, TR Switch Parity
B = YEL, Circuit 772, TR Switch B
C = GRY, Circuit 773, TR Switch C
D = BLK/WHT, Circuit 771, TR Switch A


Update: No Pics, got the motor wiring done, hooked up the bat and my HP tuners and she has a heart beat! Checked the sensors and everything looks like its working, the only snag I hit wasone of my tail lights was wired backwards. I set a PB for the most DTC's in one shot, The computer was a little upset about all the egr/evap/ac stuff missing.

[Sandman]

Awesome, so it was ran on the first fire up?

[philip_king]

i can't believe this is my first time reading this thread. this is one project that should deff be done alot more. great job and keep the updates and pics coming.

[monte]

Hey man great project great job Ive got a 01 monte ss Im trying to do a ls1 or ls2 rwd conversion and man I have a ton of questions for you.Thats if you dont mind I understand.

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Good lord. This thread is stellar. I want to see this beast in action!

[ricardo23]

how's it coming"? no recent updates man.

[eaton_rice]

Ya sorry no updates, got to cold to quick. Got a 99 xj with 80k for a winter beater and had to change front hubs/u joints, ate up my remaining time. Waiting for my cousin to clean out a spot in his shop to drag it there to try and finish it up for this summer.

[MusicMan]

Ah shoot, saw this thread pop up and I got really excited :(

[Dr. Channard]

Ah shoot, saw this thread pop up and I got really excited :(


x2 :( considering this thread started 05-15-2007, 11:31 AM :(

[epic]

Man, what a project.

I admire your skills... truly amazing.

[Monster]

Any updates? Been eyeing this build for a while

[eaton_rice]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy y,

Thanks again for the complements guys

Been tying up the loose ends, got all 7 gauges, headlights and Aeromotive fuel pump controller wired in and working, will get some pics, the gauges look ridiculous when all 7 are lit up at night.

Finally can pull the motor and trans to change the converter because its finally (after 5 months) at my cousins shop. Wont be many cool new pics because there is nothing really left to do so here are some un exciting pics:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850308_large.jpg

Ready to go in

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850309_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850307_large.jpg


Sorry for the crappy cell pics, the EVO has an 8 mp camera its just not the nicest.

It was actually encouraging following the wrecker to see that the suspension was actually working quite nicely and it didn't even break!

[insaneABOT]

Nice job on the car. Looks awesome

[Namrepus28]

I like the way it's sitting on its tires. Nice stance.

[99Camaroman]

Good luck getting her started!

Side note, FUCKING SWEEEEEEEEEEEET chevy in the background. I'll take that off your hands for you =]]

[Sandman]

It's only been 3 years since you started lol. Gad you're about to get this thing driving under its own power.

[Forced_Firebird]

It's only been 3 years since you started lol. Gad you're about to get this thing driving under its own power.

Yup. He started this build when I started the hybrid in my car, now that's sold and am going with a full 3400 lol.

/thread jack

[eaton_rice]

New turbo impeller and NAWWWWWWWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (not really just cool pics)

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850316_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850313_large.jpg

Pulled the motor to:
-Change the flex plate
-Easier access to the:
Brake booster, thing was leaking like crazy
Heater core lines needed to be finished
Trans lines needed to be finished

Motor out:
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850314_large.jpg

So sad :(

Motor:
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850310_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850311_large.jpg

Installed Aeromotive fuel pump controller
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4473/1701/23680850312_large.jpg

[Bob]

awesome progress

[Sparky]

Awesome the thread lives!!

[Sandman]

So close and yet so far.

[Italia]

Fuck yeah RWD GP!

[MusicMan]

So many years in the making, so freaking awesome :cool: