My L67 swap project

[skalor]

I didn't know where to post this since I don't fit in anywhere else on this board. I'll be starting my next engine swap as soon as I help finish my brother's(redfrk) turbo conversion on his truck. I already got a '99 L67 from Ed Morad that I'll be swapping into my '89 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera International Coupe. It already has a 3300/4T60 in it now so I'm not expecting too much trouble mounting it to the subframe. I plan to use later A-body 4T60E style trans mounts, and stick with the A-body rubber engine mount mated to the L67 engine mount bracket. I think I'll be able to use a U-body(Olds Silouette) 3800/4T60E passenger side axle, but I'm not sure about the driver's side. Anyways, here are a couple pictures of my Ciera as it sits now. I swapped Cutlass Supreme wheels with 225/50/16s onto it. Plus, I have a rare set of A-body Eibach's on my old Ciera that I plan to swap onto this one. It should be a fun car since it only weighs ~2900lbs. :D

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/int1.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/int2.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/int4.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/int3.jpg

[hawgs]

Looks like a fun project! Keep us up-to-date with your your swap goes. :D

[95bat]

So does it pull the hoes?

[SilverBullet04SS]

Sharp car. Check out L67.COM
a few lesabre t type's have been converted with the l67 swap, is that an H-Body? Nice looking car, can't wait to see the in progress pics. Nice ride, how many miles? Does that have the FE3 suspension?

[Seppo]

Man that is a clean looking car for an '89.

[Cadillac]

that is sharp. how's the interior look?

[GT Jon]

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/readerpics/brad_mills/interior.jpg

J/K, clean looking car. That swap should make it pretty quick. Keep us updated!

[skalor]

It has ~146K on the clock, and I'm only the third owner. The guy I bought it from bought it from his mother-in-law in '99 and it only had 39K on it. He daily drove it, but hit a deer a couple years back so the whole car was repainted. They did put the wrong grill on the car though. The RPO codes call for a black grill to go with the black moulding, but they put a chrome grill on the car. :rolleyes: I don't have any interior pictures at the moment, but it has center shift with a driver info center. It has the FE3 suspension and they are pretty firm for an Oldsmobile, but the Eibachs I plan to swap into it are a lot stiffer. Plus, the struts/shocks are original and they are worn out so it's getting KYB GR-2s in the front and Gas-A-Just in the rear. No A-body came with a rear swaybar so I'll be getting an Addco 3/4" rear swaybar as well. Also, when I do the swap I'm swapping on 6000 STE rear disc brakes and I'm going to fab up brackets to mount W-body front brake calipers and rotors. It's getting a full 3" exhaust with the L67 swap, because the next stage of the swap after this summer is a Turbonetic's 60-1 that's sitting at my brother's house. :D

[FloydSummerOf68]

Looks good man, and it should fly with an l67 in it!

[RedFrk]

I'll be starting my next engine swap as soon as I help finish my brother's(redfrk) turbo conversion on his truck.


I am sitting on the tailgate right now, but no plans to work on it.
So dont plan on starting that project anytime soon. :D

[FlyinGTP]

Thats too cool. I was planing to swap a turbo l67 into my 1985 Pontiac 6000 STE. Never got around to it but maybe i will someday.

[Dom]

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/readerpics/brad_mills/interior.jpg

J/K, clean looking car. That swap should make it pretty quick. Keep us updated!

Work car? :)

[GT Jon]

I don't even know where I got that pic... LOL.

I should get a pic of the interior of one of our cruisers. :rofl:

[skalor]

I just wanted to post an update that I'm still moving forward with my L67 swap...it's just going really slow. I've been replacing some gaskets on the engine as I take it apart to clean it. So far I've replaced the vavle covers gaskets that are prone to leaking as well as the fuel injector o-rings when I took off the fuel rail to paint it. I also ported the exhaust manifolds as well as paint them with high temp paint. I also cut the W-body dogbone bracket off of the ICM mount so I could modify a 3300 dogbone bracket to fit. Right now, I've started to modify the wiring harness to work with my car. I've documented most of the changes I need to make, but I'm sure more will show up. Here are couple pictures of the the engine & trans:

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67-1.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67-2.jpg

Here a picture of the Oldsmobile boost gauge that I bought from GM. You can see that it's the same font that the factory Sport Cluster used.

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/gauge-2.jpg

[skalor]

I was able to get quite a bit of work done on my L67 swap this weekend. I used the factory 3300 engine mount bracket and front trans mount bracket. I also used the 3300 A/C bracket after I cut a small notch in it to clear the supercharger idler pulley mount.

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/ACbracket-2.jpg

Here is a picture the rear trans mount adapter plate that I fabricated out of 1/4" steel.

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/reartransbracket-1.jpg

And here a picture of it installed with the rear trans mount bolted to it.

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/reartransbracket-2.jpg

Here is a picture of the L67 on the A-body cradle with the rack installed. There are no clearance problems with the rack at all.

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67cradle-1.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/rackclearance.jpg

Overall, everything is looking really good and I should have it in the car sometime this week. 8) :-D

[Razor789]

Looking good man keep up the good work.

[GT Jon]

Awesome work!

So, after it's in the car how much longer do you think it will take you before it's running?

[skalor]

I'm hoping to drive it before September, but I should be able to start it up in about ~2 weeks. I've already started to modify the Ciera wiring harness, and it looks pretty straight forward. I still have a lot of parts to buy yet, like exhaust and a fuel pump. I'm planning on a full 3" exhaust because I'm hoping to do a turbo conversion next summer. :cool:

[hot_rod_olds]

Lookin' nice, dude. Where'd that boost guage come from? Even got the Rocket logo and Oldsmobile insignia on it. Gotta know what it's supposed to have been in. Have fun with it. Looks like it'll be a good car to shock people with.

[FlyinGTP]

looking good.

my guess is the gauge came out of the olds cutlass supreme conv. it was a pace car model or something in like 88ish. I believe it used the same 3.1 turbo in the mclaren gp. Don't quote me on that. It was some super ultra rare thing.

[skalor]

The gauge is actually from the GM performance parts catalog. It's a 2 5/8" liquid filled gauge that is made by Autometer. It's really sensitive to atmospheric changes though, so I'm going to drill a small hole in the mounting cup for the screw that equalizes the gauge. :cool:

[skalor]

Well, I got the engine in and mounted yesterday. I can't wait for it to run, and I'm hoping to be done by the end of August. I still have a lot of work to do yet though. :D

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67installed-1.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67installed-2.jpg
http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67installed-3.jpg

[Neil350]

Nice swap, my first car was an 86 Cutlass Ciera Brougham, we had that car from new in 1986 to 2004 and ran till then, good car

[RedFrk]

The race is on! Whos car/truck will start first. This does not require the vehicle to move as we both know neither are moving anytime soon. :D

[skalor]

Too bad you've been working on your's for almost a year and I'm only on my 4th week. :D Are we going to start your truck this weekend or what?? I'm really looking forward to not seeing the turbo spin at idle. :grinno:

[Turningfast]

nice sleeper

[skalor]

She's Alive!! :)

http://www.gmv6.org/images/olds/L67Ciera.mov

[car audio dave]

wow, very exciting. when will it actually move?

[jrschultz]

I've been following the progress. I love the idea of a sweet motor in the great looking 2-door Ciera. I had a 87 4-door as my first car. You are going to have such a rocket with how light that car is even with a stock L67. With the turbo...wow! Post some vids when its rolling and completely destroying those tires!

[skalor]

Thanks for the compliments. :biggrin2:

I've been slowly making progress on the car as I'm finishing up all the little things. My brother and I will be welding up the exhaust this weekend so it should actually stay running longer without disturbing the neighbors. I'm hoping to actually get it out the garage this weekend as it will be the first time since the first week of July when I started the swap. :)

[jrschultz]

Any more progress? Is it running?

[RedFrk]

Any more progress? Is it running?
Yes, the car has been running and driving for a few days now. I sure we will have some videos soon. :)

[jrschultz]

Yes, the car has been running and driving for a few days now. I sure we will have some videos soon. :)

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! I look forward to it. I also look forward to seeing you post in the "kill" section what that thing destroys;)

[BlacksmithSSon]

Any progress so far? Let's see how it boogitys! (boogit-ties?)

[RedFrk]

I posted this video in the drag racing section awhile back. Its my S10 vs my brothers Ciera. :)

http://www.gmv6.org/videos/CIERAvsS10.mov

[kinetsudragon]

awesome Ciera.. The S-10 is superfast too.. That Ciera is a HUGE sleeper.. great job guys.

[RedFrk]

awesome Ciera.. The S-10 is superfast too.. That Ciera is a HUGE sleeper.. great job guys.
Yes, his Ciera is one of the biggest sleepers I have ever seen. :)

Here is a gallery of images for the Ciera.

http://www.gmv6.org/gallery/L67_Ciera/

[skalor]

Thanks for the compliments on the Ciera. It's running great and I have not had any issues so far, but I took my time with the swap so I didn't expect any problems. I'm planning a turbo conversion in late spring/early summer which should net easy 12s on 10 psi. :)